Comments on: Southern Cross – the non-integrated interchange https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Fri, 21 Aug 2020 05:49:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-683646 Fri, 21 Aug 2020 05:49:38 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-683646 In reply to TC.

The V/Line site has the details here:

https://www.vline.com.au/Fares-general-info/Ticketing-Fares

If you’re travelling from Balaclava to Geelong in the morning, and the reverse in the evening, then the journey is always off peak.

But if you are coming from Geelong in the morning, then you might be better off using the Bourke Street Bridge to change trains without touching off and on again, and instead wait until you get to Balaclava to touch off – if it is after 9am, then you get charged the off-peak fare no matter what train you actually caught.

For the reverse trip to Geelong in the evening, you need to touch on before 4pm or after 6pm to avoid the peak fare – that would influence whether you touch off then on again at Southern Cross.

]]> By: TC https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-683620 Fri, 21 Aug 2020 03:05:02 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-683620 Hi Marcus, I just discovered your site -very useful. I will have to go from Balaclava (zone 1) station to Geelong and I can’t work out how to get the off-peak fare. The definition of peak and off-peak is not clear and I am also not sure what happens at Southern Cross. Do I ahve to touch on and off there to change platforms and what does that do to my fare ? It is just confusing all round. It may be a bit of trial and error to work out what off-peak really means. Anyway, thanks for your webpage.

]]> By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-339645 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:44:32 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-339645 In reply to Tom the first and best..

Collins Street does form the main spine headed west through Docklands – Bourke Street is rather dead because the south side is already accessible from Collins Street, and the north is just the stadium and water.

]]> By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-339642 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:33:56 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-339642 In reply to Kevin.

As for V/Line peak / off-peak fares under Myki, they are a complete mess – when heading into the city if you can wait inside the gates until 9am you get the discount, and the same applies if you touch on before 4pm when headed home.

http://ptv.vic.gov.au/tickets/myki/v-line/

The same rules also screw over any passenger wanting to catch a train departing Melbourne shortly after 6pm – either you pay the correct fare by hovering near the gates until the clock ticks over then bolt for the train, or get overcharged if you board early to find a seat!

]]> By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-339640 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:30:11 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-339640 In reply to Kevin.

Thanks for the update. I went past myself the same day to get a photo – I’ll update the post.

]]> By: Kevin https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-339445 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:54:36 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-339445 The gates were open this afternoon. 4pm Thursday 11 December.
One additional point, there are few if any information boards for passengers alighting from the metro system advising them which platform their vline train departs from. This would also prevent passengers from having to touch out and touch in again.
As for moving from platform 14 to platform 1 without touching off/on, it is possible but quite a trek. Important to do so to avoid a peak fare when starting your journey before 4pm.

]]> By: Tom the first and best. https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-339382 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 00:55:06 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-339382 Collins St also has trams. If there is a capacity issue on the Collins St trams and/or the Collins St entrance/exit to Southern Cross (comparatively with the Burke St), then Burke St West could get trams to spread the patronage.

]]> By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-338954 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 04:52:11 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-338954 In reply to wxtre.

As originally built the Bourke Street Bridge only connected to Docklands Stadium, with a set of stairs linking it to street level near the remains of No. 2 Goods Shed. The other connections have been added by developers, such as the recently constructed bridge across Wurundjeri Way to the Channel 9 building.

By comparison the Collins Street end is a ‘proper’ street, where you just walk down the hill, with access to the various buildings being directly from the footpath.

]]> By: wxtre https://wongm.com/2014/12/southern-cross-station-separate-paid-areas/#comment-337380 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:20:09 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5276#comment-337380 The whole walkway between Spencer st and the Docklands is not integrated well, compared to the Collins Street end of Southern Cross station. The stairs leading from the Docklands precinct to the station are difficult to climb, they need escalators here.

Also I particularly dislike this cladding they use as the bridge parapet.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2reqjwj.jpg

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